Why Calorie Counts Are Wrong – Instant Egghead #47
Food is energy for the body. In the nineteenth century, American chemistry Wilbur Atwater measured the available energy in food by calculating the average number of calories in fat, protein and carbohydrates. We still use his averages today. However, as biologist Rob Dunn makes clear in his feature for Scientific American[br]special issue on food, there is no such a thing as an average food[br] or an average person. How many calories we extract from food depends on the biology [br]of the species we are eating, how we cook and process our food and even on the different bacterial communities in different people’s guts. Standard calorie counts don’t take[br]any of these factors into consideration, resulting in numbers [br]that are slightly inaccurate, at best, and sometimes rather misleading. For example, let’s take about the difference[br]eating foods and vegetables. Fruits are generally soft and sweet because they evolved to attract hungry animals that inadvertently [br]helped plants to spread their seeds In contrast the stems, leaves and roots that we call vegetables, [br]are often tough and fibrous. Seeds are also rather tough because they have to survive digestion[br]in order for a plant reproduce. Because we spend considerable energy breaking down hard vegetables[br]and seeds in our intestines, we generally get fewer net calories[br]from them than from tender fruits. Cooking plants completely changes the equation[br]by making them much easier to digest. Steamed broccoli yelds more calories[br]than raw broccoli, for instance. That’s also true of cooked meat and fish. It takes more energy to break down[br]a firm piece of sushimi than a flake of big salmon. Even if two people sit down[br]for exactly the same meal, prepared in exactly the same way, they won’t leave [br]with the same number of calories. In addition of all kinds[br]of anatomical and metabolic differences, each of us have a unique community of bacteria living in our guts. Some of these bacteria help us break down[br]tough plant fibers. But they also take some of the calories[br]for themselves. Other bacteria might be a little too helpful making certain people so efficient[br]at metabolizing food, that they absorb more calories than they need[br]and gain weight. As you can see, digestion turns out to be such a messy affair that we’ll probably never have[br]precise calorie counts for all the different foods[br]we’d like to eat and prepare in so many different ways. But at least we can remember[br] to take standard calorie counts[br]for the grain of salt. For Scientific American Instant Egghead,[br]I”m Ferris Jabr.
Oh, please… For decades I've been trying to explain that the method used to 'measure calories' is simplistically stupid – they BURN the food – literally burn it in a small heat-producing unit – & measure the BTUs it produces. No consideration as to whether there are necessary nutrients, vitamins, minerals whatsoever. This shallow, two-dimensional method led to many dieters counting calories instead of seeking NUTRITIOUS FOODS – which helped lead to the fattening of America, imo…
And the latest PR blather about the "safety" of GMO foods in the special Scientific American is yet another example of so-called 'intelligent' people behaving idiotically. First, there are significant differences between foods modified to produce a greater nutritional value versus foods modified to produce a "Roundup[tm]"-style pesticide. Secondly, the bulk of GMO patents held by ONE company & the predatory business practices of that company – and the implications – were ALSO not discussed.
The field of human nutrition is one area in which science has lagged woefully far behind – which casts more doubt upon the glowingly positive 'blanket' recommendation the Scientific American editorial staff gave to GMOs. I clearly remember similar glowing reports from significant numbers of scientists of the supposed "health benefits" of thalidomide & cigarette smoking (before the mysterious increases in lung cancer became apparent), to name a couple of scientific disasters of the past.
OH GRAIN OF SALT I GET IT X_D punt intended hahaha
quite informative! good job
Can anybody give examples of "too efficient" bacteria and less efficient ones?
Science doesn't give "blanket" reccomandation to anything, that's you bias seeing a non-condemnation like that. GMOs aren't either safe or unsafe, as with EVERYTHING in science every single episode of GMOs has to be valued singularly. And since GMOs are produced in laboratories with human consuption in mind it's extremely difficult than an "unsafe" GMO comes out of the lab for consumption. If your worries are not scientific but ethical or economic just say so and don't abuse science.
What part of "glowing reports from significant numbers of scientists of the supposed "health benefits" of thalidomide & cigarette smoking" did you not understand? Science has "shown" various advancements as "safe", when later on it is found that they weren't safe at all. One problem with scientific research is a lack of simple common sense – it ALL hinges on available data, which produces the occasional short-sighted conclusion. I stated that SOME GMOs might be safe, but definitely NOT all…
The predatory behavior of the Monsanto corporation is a powerful indicator that their motives are of the worst sort – which calls into question their honesty, which calls into question the accuracy of any scientific studies they trot out – unless done over a LONG period of time (20 – 40 years) & by a research facility with IMPECCABLE credentials. Have your forgotten – or never learned – how the tobacco industry pulled the same type of deceit on the American public for decades?
Yeah, science is so stupid to rely on data and not WWZenaDo's "common sense" intuition on evil Monsanto. Dude, again, I've no problem if you have a problem with Monsanto's practices. But don't bring up science. You know insted who DEFINITELY did bad science on GMOs? Seralini's anti-GMO studies financed by Carrefour and Auchan, two corporations way bigger than Monsanto who have a vested interest in bashing GMOs for their bullshit "all-natural, no-GMO" style ad campaigns.
[2nd reply part 1] Your blanket approval of "science" is short-sighted & ridiculous. There are good studies, poorly-designed studies, studies influenced by money & power, & the ever-present possibility that future information will overturn what is being "concluded" about the safety of [your blanket statement lumping ALL GMOs together] GMOs. I sincerely hope you consume as much GMO food as possible.
Dude, my very first reply was based on such "blanket statements" existing only in your mind. GMOs are not "safe", you can theoretically make anything with it, even poisonous flowers and shark-cheetah hybrids but no one would because they're not idiots. You can stop there, if there's one thing I'm not itnerested in is discussing with people who instead of replying to me reply to their imaginary opponent who lives in their head and says what they need it to say.
Oh, btw, I eat ONLY GMOs since most "natural" versions of the veggies and fruits and animals I eat haven't existed for centuries.
[2nd reply part 2] Personally, I'm going to use my common-sense & survival instincts – based on my observations of the CORRUPTION OF 'PURE' SCIENCE in the cases of the "cigarette smoking doesn't cause lung cancer" fiasco, the "Thalidomide is perfectly safe for pregnant women" disaster, the "Fen-Phen" recall, which took 24 YEARS to finally get THAT off the market, DES (27 years on the market), Baycol (4 years on the market), and so on. This is the track record of scientific/CORPORATE research…
2nd reply part 3] And that's the problem. Much of this research is being done 'after the fact' – the products have been in the market for a while, there's a vested financial interest in maintaining the 'official' story that [as you tend to say] ALL GMOs are "safe", & so on. It will be interesting to see what happens as more time passes. Monsanto has deep pockets, but I don't think they'll be able to maintain the illusion of 'safety' – OR retain control of the "patented foods" market.
And your limited vocabulary & ad-hominem tendencies indicate that you lack the intellect to fully consider all aspects of the situation – after all, you tend to use all-inclusive statements that "…science is so stupid to rely on data" & short-sighted belittling of a cautionary approach "…not WWZenaDo's 'common sense' intuition on evil Monsanto…" Therefore I am not interested in conversing with you any longer.
Well hello there! Science finally catches up to the casual observations of millions of people!
OF COURSE two people absorb a different number of calories from the same foods. Ask anyone who's relatively inactive, eats all they want, but stays slim, or anyone who is relatively active, restricts what they eat, but remains heavier.
For whatever reason, the "Biology deniers" have never been able to find these people for testing, but everyone else knows at least one of each type.
So I can has dat cheezburger?
People vary, so DON'T BOTHER WITH AN AVERAGE!
Seems Legit…
all calories measured are relevant, if youre counting calories to lose or gain weight, youll lose or gain weight. its that simple. this video was sort of pointless
Well as most of this is true, it is impossible to take into account and it is way more controlled to count brutto calories than to count nothing at all.
Fortunately the animals that digested food inefficiently died out so a bomb calorimeter reading is only out by 20% at most. You are still fat because you overeat.
Speedometers on cars aren't 100% accurate so I completely ignore mine as it gives me no useful advice whatsoever.
Its not that calories mean nothing its that its not entirely accurate if a produc on the shelf claims to contain 750 calories and half of which are from fat and its pre deep fried its probably much higher watching calories is still important…just dont rely on the packages and if you do count your calories account for all the variables lile how you cook it season it etc. To get the closest possible count.
Its not that calories mean nothing its that its not entirely accurate if a produc on the shelf claims to contain 750 calories and half of which are from fat and its pre deep fried its probably much higher watching calories is still important…just dont rely on the packages and if you do count your calories account for all the variables lile how you cook it season it etc. To get the closest possible count.
also water causes weight gain as do "zero calorie" food and drinks.if you want to argue and say its a unit of energy thats not true and not generaly the accepted notion by the general public and you can apply no formula to that for energy and excersize yields wich weather can affect excersize and exhaustion factors as well as other factors such as obesity levels. unless you have diarrea you loose about 2% of that through stool,etc. 1 mcdonalds hamburger takes about 6 hours fasting to loose in normal weather that even before fat is taken care of to put it in perspective.
if your unsure what food is going to affect your weight stand on a digital person weight scale with the food, subtract plate,cup weight before you eat it.water gets you .5 lbs a cup. daily caloric intake levels are also complete inept fruitcakian nonsense. i level my weight about 1,000 calories a day, fluxing on excersize amounts and weather and exhaustion levels.2 cups fluids, more if its hot out.cheers.