WATCH: Bevin, Beshear debate on WLKY


VICKI: WELCOME TO THE 2019
KENTUCKY GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE. JOINING ME ON STAGE TONIGHT IS
REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT GOVERNOR
MATT BEVIN. AND ATTORNEY GENERAL ANDY
BESHEA. THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU TO THE KENTUCKY
LOUISVILLE LEAGUE OF WOMEN
VOTERS FOR PARTNERING WITH WLKY
AND PROVIDING THE QUESTIONS FOR
THE DEBATE. IF BIG WELCOME TO OUR AUDIENCE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
FOLLOWING THE DEBATE RULES. PLEASE KEEP EACH CANDIDATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION WITHOUT BEING
INTERRUPTED. WE BEGAN WITH OPENING
STATEMENTS. EACH CANDIDATE WILL HAVE 90
SECONDS FOR OPENING REMARKS. MR. BEVIN WON THE COIN TOSS. GOV. BEVIN: I WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU FOR HOSTING THIS. TO THE KENTUCKY LEAGUE OF WOMEN
VOTERS. I WANT TO THIK MY WIFE AND MY
CHILDREN. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL’S WIFE AND
CHILDREN. IT IS A GRIND TO GO THROUGH
THESE THINGS. AS WE GET CLOSER, THOSE OF YOU
WATCHING ON TV, THOSE OF YOU IN
THIS AUDIENCE HAVE A DECISION TO
MAKE. I WANT TO TELL YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT
MYSELF. WE WILL TALK ABOUT A LOT OF
IDEAS. I GREW UP IN A HUMBLE
CIRCUMSTANCE. FINANCIALLY BELOW THE POVERTY
LEVEL, BUT BLESSED TO BE BORN IN
A HOME WHERE A MOTHER AND FATHER
TAUGHT ME TO RESPECT GOD AND
COUNTRY. I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. I AM A FATHER OF NINE CHILDREN
ANY MILITARY VETERAN. AS SOMEBODY WHO LOVES KENTUCKY
AND IS FIGHTING FOR THIS
KENTUCKY, IRAN FOUR YEARS AGO ON
WHAT I CALLED A BLUEPRINT
PREVENT FOR KENTUCKY. I PUT OUT THIS BLUEPRINT AND IT
HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE
GOING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL, AND
MAY HAVE BEEN. WE HAVE NOT EVEN GOTTEN THEM ALL
DONE. WE ARE MAKING INCREDIBLE
STRIDES. RECORD LEVELS OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT. I STAND FOR LIFE, I STAND FOR
THE CONSTITUTION, I STAND FOR
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA, AND I STAND
FOR ENSURING THAT THE
OPPORTUNITIES AHEAD OF ARE THE BEST THEY HAVE EVER BEEN
BECAUSE WE TAKE ON THE TOUGH
ISSUES AND WE HOLD KENTUCKY UP
AND MAKE IT THE GREATEST VERSION
OF ITSELF THAT IT CAN POSSIBLY
BE. A.G. BESHEAR: THANK YOU TO WL,
THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AND
BELLARMINE FOR HAVING US. WE ARE 10 DAYS FROM THE
SELECTION AND I AM FIRED UP. I AM FIRED UP BECAUSE I SEE IN
ENERGY AND HUNGER ALL ACROSS
KENTUCKY. A HUNGER FOR A GOVERNOR THAT
LISTENS MORE THAN HE TALKS. A HUNGER FOR A GOVERNOR THAT
SOLVES MORE PROBLEMS THAN HE
CREATES. AND A HUNGER FOR A GOVERNOR THAT
WOULD NEVER ENGAGE IN BULLYING
AND NAME CALLING, BUT SPENDS ALL
HIS TIME ADDRESSING THE
CHALLENGES IN FRONT OF US. THAT’S THE TYPE OF GOVERNOR I
WANT TO BE. ONE FOR EVERY DEMOCRAT,
REPUBLICAN, INDEPENDENT. ONE THAT FIGHTS FOR EASTERN,
WESTERN, NORTHERN AND CENTRAL
KENTUCKY. WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THE LOSS
AND THE LEFT BEHIND. I SEE A KENTUCKY WHERE WE HAVE
BEEN DIVIDED. I SEE A GOVERNOR THAT HAS TRIED
TO CREATE IN US VERSUS THEM. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE
STATE. I LOVE THIS COMMONWEALTH. I KNOW WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD IF
WE CONTINUE TO DIVIDE OURSELVES. IF WE HAVE A THIS SIDE OR THAT
SIDE, WE CANNOT HAVE AN US OR
THEM, WE CAN ONLY HAVE A WEEK
AND WILL FORWARD TOGETHER. I HAVE A VISION FOR A BIGGER,
BETTER, BRIGHTER KENTUCKY. ONE WERE WE COULD BE AN NATIONAL
LEADER IN AREAS LIKE
AGRICULTURE, MANUFACTURING AND
HEALTH CARE. ONE WHERE WE CARE ABOUT OUR
NEIGHBORS AND ENSURING EVERYONE
HAS ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH
CARE. I BELIEVE IN LIFTING UP OUR
PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM AND
ENDING THE BULLYING WE SEE ON
OUR TEACHERS, AND MOVING FORWARD
TOGETHER FOR OUR CHILDREN. VICKI: EACH CANDIDATE WILL HAVE
ONE MINUTE TO ANSWER YOU TO
QUESTION. CANDIDATES WILL BE ALLOWED A
32ND REBUTTAL IF NEEDED FOR
CLARIFICATION. MR. BASHIR WILL RECEIVE QUESTION
NUMBER ONE FIRST. VOTERS ARE FRUSTRATED BY
NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR FOR
POLITICIANS. AS GOVERNOR HOWELL YOU FOSTER
CIVIL DISCOURSE AND BIPARTISAN
COOPERATION TO SOLVE THIS. A.G. BESHEAR: WE HAVE HAD A
TOUGH LAST FOUR YEARS. WE HAVE SEEN A GOVERNOR WHO HAS
ATTACKED OUR TEACHERS. ACCUSE THEM OF CAUSING CRIMES TO
TEACHERS. WE HAVE SEEN MINISTERS DON’T
AGREE. WE DESPERATELY NEED TO CHANGE IN
TONE. THIS ELECTION WILL DETERMINE
WHETHER THE BEHAVIOR OF OUR
CURRENT GOVERNOR IS THE
EXCEPTION OR RULE. IT IS TIME FOR A GOVERNOR THAT
CAN BRING US TOGETHER. THAT CAN CHANGE THE TONE TO ONE
OF CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE. YOU CANNOT CALL PEOPLE NAMES AND
THEN ASKED THEM TO SIT DOWN AT
THE TABLE WITH YOU. I AM COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH
EVERYBODY WHO WANTS A BETTER
KENTUCKY. THAT’S DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS,
INDEPENDENTS AND THE PEOPLE
ACROSS KENTUCKY. NO ONE WILL EVER BE LOCKED OUT
OF THEIR CAPITAL EVER AGAIN. INSTEAD, EVERYONE WILL BE
INVITED IN TO SHARE THEIR IDEAS. THE BEST IDEAS OFTEN COME FROM
OUTSIDE OF THAT BUILDING. IMAGINE A STATE WITH UNITY OF
PURPOSE. WERE WE KNOW PUBLIC EDUCATION,
PENSIONS, HEALTH CARE AND JOBS
ARE NOT PARTISAN. GOV. BEVIN: POLITICAL DISCOURSE
IS MISSING IN OUR SOCIETY. I TOOK A MOMENT BEFORE WE BEGIN
THIS DEBATE. I WENT OUTSIDE TO THANK THE MEN
AND WOMEN ON BOTH SIDES THAT
WERE OUT THERE WAVING SIGNS. THEY WERE WAVING SIGNS IN
SUPPORT OF ME AND THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL. I WAS STRUCK BY THE DIFFERENCE
AMONG THOSE WAVING SIGNS. SOME MORE GRATEFUL. BOTH SIDES SAID HELLO. THERE WAS A LEVEL OF VICTORY. THERE WAS SOME NASTINESS THAT
UNFORTUNATELY HAS BECOME A PART
OF WHAT WE SEE NOW. IT DOES FALL UPON US IN THE
POLITICAL WORLD TO BE MINDFUL OF
THIS. IT WAS PARENTS. IT STARTS IN OUR CIVIC
ORGANIZATIONS. IT INCLUDES OUR CHURCHES, EVERY
SINGLE NE OF US HAS A
RESPONSIBILITY. IT STARTS WITH EACH ONE OF US AS
A INDIVIDUAL. I HAVE FOUGHT TO ENSURE WE TREAT
PEOPLE WITH RESPECT. WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE
DISAGREEMENTS I AM GRATEFUL WE
LIVE IN AN AMERICA WHERE WE HAVE
THE ABILITY TO DISAGREE. A.G. BESHEAR: THOSE FOLKS
OUTSIDE THAT THE GOVERNOR JUST
ACCUSED OF VITRIOL ARE TEACHERS. THEY ARE WEARING RED AND HAVE
BEEN BULLIED FOR FAR TOO LONG. THE ATTACKS CONTINUE TONIGHT. THESE ARE AMAZING PUBLIC
SERVANTS THAT NEED TO BE LIFTED
UP, NOT PUSHED DOWN. THESE ARE FOLKS THAT SHOW UP
EVERY DAY AND WORK EVEN THOUGH
WE DON’T PAY THEM ENOUGH. IF I AM FRIEND LAURA WHO DRIVES
UBER AT NIGHT TO MAKE ENDS MEET
AFTER TEACHING DURING THE DAY. THIS GOVERNOR SAID THAT’S
AMERICA, IT’S NOT. WE OUGHT TO DO BETTER FOR THEM. GOV. BEVIN: LET ME SAY SOMETHING
QUICKLY. THE PERSON I WAS POKING —
SPEAKING TO WAS NOT A TEACHER. ARE YOU TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION
ABOUT WHO I SPOKE TO OR WHO THEY
WERE IS A BIG MISTAKE ON YOUR
PART. VICKI: MR. BEVIN, LET’S GO TO
QUESTION NUMBER TWO. HISTORIC UNDERFUNDING OF
CONTENTION PENSIONS — KENTUCKY
PENSIONS HAS HAD WIDE IMPACTS. WHAT REMAINS TO BE DONE TO HELP
THE KENTUCKY PENSION SYSTEM? GOV. BEVIN: THE PENSION SYSTEM
HAS COLLAPSED IN KENTUCKY AND
PUBLIC PENSION SYSTEMS IN
AMERICA HAS. THERE USED TO BE 30 PEOPLE DOWN
HERE FOR EVERYBODY THAT WAS
RETIRED. THEN THERE WERE 20, 15, 12 THAN
10. SOCIAL SECURITY ONLY HAS 3.5 FOR
EVERYONE RETIRED. NOBODY BELIEVES SOCIAL SECURITY
WILL LAST. KENTUCKY HAS LESS THAN ONE. THIS SYSTEM HAS COLLAPSED. THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE IT, TO KEEP
THE PROMISE THAT HAS BEEN MADE
IS TO CHANGE THE STRUCTURE FOR
FUTURE EMPLOYEES. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO CONTINUE
TO PROMISE FUTURE PEOPLE THE
SAME THING THAT CURRENT AND PAST
EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN PROMISED IF
THERE IS TO BE ANY CHANCE THAT
ANY OF THEM WILL GET WHAT’S PROMISE. IT IS ABOUT REALITY ON ITS
IMPORTANT THAT WE STOP KICKING
US CAN DOWN THE ROAD. I AM THE ONLY GOVERNOR TO FUND
THIS PENSION AND KENTUCKY
HISTORY AND I WILL CONTINUE TO
DO SO AND FIGHT TO MAKE SURE
IT’S REQUIRED BY LAW. A.G. BESHEAR: IT IS A PROMISE WE
MADE EVERY POLICE OFFICER,
FIREFIGHTER AND SOCIAL WORKER. ALTHOUGH WE DON’T PAY THEM
ENOUGH, WE WOULD MAKE IT UP WITH
A SECURE RETIREMENT. THIS GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATOR
BROKE THAT PROMISE. THEY TRIED TO ILLEGALLY CUT THE
RETIREMENTS OF OVER 200,000
PUBLIC SERVANTS. THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT THEY THINK
OF US. WE DEFEATED THEM, 7-0 IN FRONT
OF THE SUPREME COURT. WHAT ARE THEY DOING NOW. THEY ARE PUSHING THOSE COSTS
DOWN ON CITIES AND COUNTIES. MATT BEVIN IS RAISING OUR TAXES
TO TRY TO PAY FOR THIS PENSION
SYSTEM. IT IS TIME FOR NEW DEDICATED
REVENUE. IT HAS TO BE IN A FORM OF
EXPANDED GAMING WHERE WE LOSE
$550 MILLION A YEAR. IT HAS TO BE IN A FORM OF
MEDICINAL MARIJUANA. IN THE FORM OF ENDING THESE
TAXES FOR COMPANIES THAT ARE
PAYING CUT RATE SALARIES TO
COMPANIES. LET’S CLOSE LOOPHOLES. PEOPLE THAT FIVE PRIVATE JETS
CAN AFFORD TO PAY SALES TAX. VICKI: MR. BEVIN REBUTTAL. GOV. BEVIN: I THINK THAT WAS
MEANT TO BE FUNNY. WE TALK ABOUT BREAKING PROMISES. THE ONLY LEGISLATOR, THE ONLY
GOVERNOR THAT IN THE HISTORY OF
THE STATE HAS EVER FULLY FUNDED
THE PENSION, EVER, IS MYSELF AND
THE CURRENT LEGISLATOR. WE HAVE TRIED THROUGH
LEGISLATION TO REQUIRE THIS. BUT IT HAS BEEN FOUGHT. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SAVE THE
SYSTEM IF WE KEEP MAKING
PROMISES TO PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW
WE CAN’T DELIVER ON. IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE HONEST. SOMEONE SAID AS WE BEGAN THAT
THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. IT IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. IT’S ALSO MATH AND WE CANNOT
MAKE PROMISES THAT THERE IS NO
MONEY FOR THE TAXPAYERS TO BACK
UP. VICK CITIES LIKE LOUISVILLE
ARE STRUGGLING WITH SKYROCKETING
PENSION CAUSE, BUT THEIR LEADERS
SAY THEY ARE HINDERED BY STATE
LAW AND THEIR ABILITY TO RAISE
REVENUE. WHAT CHANGES DO YOU SUPPORT TO
ALLOW CITIES TO RAISE MORE
MONEY? A.G. BESHEAR: IF I CAN RESPOND
TO WHAT WE JUST HEARD, THERE IS
A REASON THAT THE PATERNAL ORDER
OF POLICE HAVE ENDORSED MY
TICKET. IT’S BECAUSE THEY TRUST US TO
ADDRESS THIS PENSION SYSTEM. I BELIEVE POLICE ARE PRETTY GOOD
AT GETTING TO THE FACTS AND
MAKING THE JUDGMENT ABOUT WHO
CAN MOVE THEM FORWARD AND WHAT
THE UNDERLYING FACTS ARE. THE REASON THAT OUR COUNTIES ARE
SCRAMBLING FOR THIS EXTRA
REVENUE IS THAT THIS GOVERNOR
HAS PUSHED THOSE PENSION COSTS
ON TOP OF THEM. INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT NEW
REVENUE SOURCES WHERE INDIANA IS
EATING OUR LUNCH, AND TENNESSEE
JUST LEGALIZED SPORTS BETTING,
THAT IN THIS MARKET ON YOUR
STATION WE GET ADVERTISEMENT FOR SPORTS BETTING. WE CONTINUE TO PUSH THOSE DOWN,
THOSE COSTS DOWN ON CITIES AND
COUNTIES. WE ARE GOING TO LEGALIZE CASINO
GAMING AND SPORTS BETTING. WE WILL PAVE THE WAY FROM LINE
POKER. WE WILL CREATE THE TYPE OF
REVENUE THAT INDIANA HAS TAKEN
FROM US AND PUT ON THEIR ROADS
AND PENSIONS. LET’S STEP UP, DO THE RIGHT
THING, LET’S STOP THE BLEEDING
AND NOT CONTINUE TO GET EXCUSES
WHILE WE CREATE NEW REVENUE. GOV. BEVIN WE HAD RECORD LEVELS
OF REVENUE IN KENTUCKY AFTER WE
CUT BOTH PERSONAL AND THE
CORPORATE INCOME TAX RATES BY
17%. WE HAD THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF
REVENUE IN THE HISTORY OF
KENTUCKY. YOU TALK ABOUT THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT, THE ONLY GOVERNOR
THAT HAS NEVER SWEPT THOSE
DOLLARS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO GO
TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. THE PREVIOUS GOVERNOR IS A MAN
WHO TOOK $117 OUT OF THERE IN
EIGHT YEARS TO SPEND ON OTHER
THINGS. I HAVE NEVER DONE THAT, I NEVER
WILL AND I HAVE NEVER SWEPT THE
LOTTERY FUNDS. 100% HAS GONE TO EDUCATION FOR
THE FIRST TIME. YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES
OF BUDGETS IN OUR COUNTY. THEY HAVE CHALLENGES BECAUSE
THEY ARE THE STAIN THAT THIS —
SEEM THAT THE STATE HAS. IT’S CALLED FINANCIAL REALITY
AND THE BURDEN OF HANDLING MORE
RETIREES THAN WORKERS. THIS WILL NOT GO AWAY WITH
WISHFUL THINKING. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THERE
IS 0% CHANCE THAT THIS
LEGISLATOR WILL EVER PASS CASINO
GAMBLING IN THE STATE. THEY HAVE SAID THIS EXPLICITLY,
THEY SAID THIS FOR THE LAST 10
YEARS IN A ROW. VICKI: REBUTTAL. A.G. BESHEAR: ONLY ONE OF US ON
THE STAGE HAS TRIED TO ILLEGALLY
CUT THE BUDGET OF THEM. ONLY ONE PERSON ON THE STATE
WANTS TO PUSH FOR NEW DEDICATED
REVENUE TOWARDS THAT PENSION
SYSTEM AND THAT IS ME. VICKI: WHAT ARE YOUR SPECIFIC
PROPOSALS TO ADDRESS ECONOMIC
PROPOSALS AND JOBS IN URBAN AND
RURAL AREAS. GOV. BEVIN: I AM NOT TRYING TO
CUT THE PENSIONS, I AM TRYING TO
SAVE THE PENSIONS. EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT, EVERY DOLLAR THAT
NEEDS TO BE SPENT, EVERY ROAD,
TEXTBOOK, TAXPAYER DOLLAR SPENT
ON PAYING STATE EMPLOYEES IS
PAID OUT OF TAXES THAT COME FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, WORK HERE
AND PAY TAXES. I AM THE ONLY ONE ON THE STAGE I
HAS EVER CREATED A JOB IN THE
PRIVATE SECTOR ARE. THIS IS SOMETHING I DID IN THE
PRIVATE SECTOR AND SOMETHING I
HAVE DONE. WE HAD 57,000 NEW JOBS IN THE
STATE. THE MOST PEOPLE WORKING OUT IN
KENTUCKY IN HISTORY OUR RECORDS. RECORD LEVELS OF EXPORTS. RECORD LEVELS OF EMPLOYMENT,
RECORD LEVELS OF EVERYTHING
POSITIVE FROM AN ECONOMIC
STANDPOINT. THESE ARE FROM EAST TO WEST AND
THESE WILL CONTINUE TO BE MY
FOCUS AS WE GO FORWARD IN THE
YEARS AHEAD. A.G. BESHEAR: I BELIEVE THAT IF
YOU WORK A HARD WEEK, YOU OUGHT
TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY FOR YOUR
FAMILY WORKING OUT ONE JOB. BUT THE GOVERNOR’S ANSWER SHOWS
HOW OUT OF TOUCH HE IS. OUR FAMILIES AREN’T FEELING THIS
PROSPERITY. IT’S GOING TO THAT OUT-OF-STATE
CEO. MOST FAMILIES ARE WORKING AS
HARD AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE, BUT
THEIR WAGES RARELY GO UP. THE PRICE OF GROCERIES,
PHARMACEUTICALS GOES UP MONTH
AFTER MONTH SO OUR FAMILIES ARE
WORKING HARD, BUT FALLING
FURTHER BEHIND. I HAVE A VISION WHERE WE WILL
NOT BE THE THIRD POOREST STATE
IN THE COUNTRY, WHICH WE ARE. BUT WHERE WE CAN BE A NATIONAL
AND INTERNATIONAL LEADER. IT’S ABOUT CREATING A GROTESQUE
SECTOR WHAT WE HAVE TO INCREASE
OUR FOOD SUPPLY BY 70% IN THE
NEXT 30 YEARS TO FEED THE
WORLD’S POPULATION. THAT CREATES SIX-FIGURE JOBS
ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH. JUST REMEMBER, IT’S ABOUT 82% OF
JOBS THAT THE GOVERNOR CLAIMS HE
HAS CREATED HAS BEEN INTO
CITIES. EVERYBODY ELSE’S BEING LEFT OUT. I BELIEVE IF YOU LIVE IN WESTERN
KENTUCKY OR EASTERN KENTUCKY YOU
SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A GOOD JOB
IN YOUR COMMUNITY. GOV. BEVIN I DON’T HAVE TIME TO
REBUTTAL EVERY ONE OF THEM. THESE ARE NOT TRUE. PRETTY FAR WESTERN, PRETTY
GRATEFUL FOR THE FACT THAT
THOUSANDS OF JOBS AND HUNDREDS
OF JOBS HAVE BEEN RECENTLY
BROUGHT IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. AGAIN, WE KEEP RIPPING — NUCOR
IS BUILDING A $1.5 BILLION
PLANT. LET ME SIMPLY SAY THAT, FORD,
TOYOTA, AMAZON, ALL OF THESE
COMPANIES THAT HAVE EMPLOYED SO
MANY PEOPLE, AS WELL AS GE IN
TOWN, THEY ALL HAVE OUT-OF-STATE
CEOS. NO GOVERNOR WOULD EVER RIP
OUT-OF-STATE CEOS BECAUSE THE
LIFEBLOOD OF OUR FUTURE IS
DEPENDENT ON IT. VICKI: MR. BEVIN — MR. BESHEA
WHAT ARE YOUR TAX PROPOSALS FOR
MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES? A.G. BESHEAR: I JUST HEARD THE
FUTURE OF OUR COMMONWEALTH
DEPENDS ON OUT-OF-STATE CEOS. FUTURE OF OUR COMMONWEALTH IS
FOUND IN CLASSROOMS. IT’S THE WORKFORCE WE ARE
CREATING. THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CREATE
JOBS EVERY YEAR THAN ANY
OUT-OF-STATE CEO PROVIDES. I AM WITH OUR FAMILIES. THIS GOVERNOR WITH THOSE
OUT-OF-STATE CEOS. WHAT HE ANNOUNCED THE OTHER DAY. HIS TAX PROPOSAL WOULD HARM
ALMOST ALL OF US. HE WANTS TO CUT TAXES FOR HIM
AND HIS BUDDIES. HE CALLS THEM JOB CREATORS. HE THINKS THERE ARE TWO
DIFFERENT CLASSES OF PEOPLE. I DON’T AGREE. AT THE SAME TIME HE WANTS TO CUT
THEIR TAXES HE WANTS TO RAISE
THE SALE TAX ON EVERYBODY ELSE. I WILL NEVER ALLOW TAXES TO GO
UP ON THOSE THAT ARE ONE
PAYCHECK AWAY FROM FALLING INTO
POVERTY. IT IS TIME FOR NEW DEDICATED
REVENUE. WE HAVE MORE THAN $550 MILLION
JUST SITTING THERE FOR AS TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. IT PUTS COST DOWN ON CITIES AND
HAVE THEM RAISE TAXES TO TALK
ABOUT RAISING SALES TAXES WHEN
PEOPLE ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING IS
WRONG. GOV. BEVIN: WHO DO YOU THINK IS
IN THE CASINOS THAT YOU KEEP
PROMISING YOU CAN NEVER DELIVER
ON? A LOT OF PEOPLE ONE PAYCHECK
AWAY FROM WHAT YOU DESCRIBE. THAT IS ONE OF THE CRUELEST AND
MOST REGRESSIVE THINGS YOU COULD
EVER DO TO THE STATE. TRY TO FORCE ON US THAT WHAT WE
CLEARLY DON’T WANT, WHICH OUR
LEGISLATORS DON’T WANT AND WE
HAVE NOT WANTED. HIS HYPOTHETICAL $550 MILLION IS
NOT TRUE. HOW DID WE GET INTO THE PLACE WE
ARE? WE HAD ONE PARTY IN CHARGE OF
THE STATE FOR 90 SIX STRAIGHT
YEARS IN TERMS OF APPROPRIATION,
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, I AM
THE FOURTH REPUBLICAN IN 100
YEARS. IF WE WANT TO SEE CHANGE, IF WE
WANT TO SEE PROGRESS, IF WE WANT
A BRIGHTER FUTURE, IT’S TIME TO
KEEP GOING FORWARD AND NOT
BACKWARD. A.G. BESHEAR: I WILL TELL YOU
WHO IS IN THOSE CASINOS. IT’S KENTUCKIANS. GO ACROSS THE RIVER AND THERE IS
THE CAP — A CASINO. EVERY LICENSE PLATE IS FROM A
KENTUCKY IN. THEY ARE SPENDING THEIR
ENTERTAINMENT DOLLARS THERE AND
INDIANA IS TAKING A CUT TO PAY
FOR ITS ROADS TO PUT TOWARDS ITS
PENSIONS TO TRY TO PROVIDE
HEALTH CARE FOR FOLKS. TO FUND PUBLIC EDUCATION. THIS IS A STATE RUN BY THE VICE
PRESIDENT WHO IS COMING TO
CAMPAIGN FOR THIS GOVERNOR. WE NEED EXPANDED GAMING RIGHT
HERE IN KENTUCKY. IT’S A WAY THAT WE CAN CREATE
THE REVENUE WE NEED. DEDICATED REVENUE FOR OUR
PENSION SYSTEM. VICKI: MANY KENTUCKIANS ARE
WORKING FULL-TIME JOBS
STRUGGLING TO SUPPORT THEIR
FAMILIES. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO RAISE WAGES
FOR WORKERS OF KENTUCKY? GOV. BEVIN: THAD COCHRAN TO AND
TO MAKE SURE THERE IS TRAINING
THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT SKILLS
THEY NEED FOR THE 21ST CENTURY. IT’S NOT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT
AND NOR HAS IT LASTED A SHORT
BLIMP WHEN GOVERNMENT INCREASES
WAGES. I AM SOMEONE WHO GREW U BELOW
THE POVERTY LEVEL. I KNOW WHAT IT’S LIKE TO HAVE NO
HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. THESE ARE EXPERIENCES I HAD ON
MY HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. I WAS IN MY 20’S AS AN
ACTIVE-DUTY ARMY OFFICER. I KNOW WHAT IT’S LIKE TO PURSUE
OPPORTUNITY. HERE’S WHAT I KNOW. THE MORE I LEARN IN THE MORE
SKILLS I HAD, THE MORE PEOPLE
COMPETED FOR MY ABILITY. THE MORE PEOPLE WHO COMPETED,
THE MORE POWER I HAD IN FIGURING
OUT WHAT I WOULD BE MADE. WE HAVE SEEN WAGES GOING UP IN
THE STATE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN
YEARS. ARE WE STILL NEAR THE BOTTOM? WE ARE. BUT WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS
BECAUSE WE HAVE TURNED THE
DIRECTION AFTER 96 YEARS FROM
BAD LEADERSHIP, WE STARTED TO
MOVE IN A GOOD DIRECTION. IT IS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS EVER
CREATED JOBS ON THE STAGE. THE FIRST PERSON MY OPPONENT
EVER HIRED IS WATCHING THIS
DEBATE FROM PRISON. A.G. BESHEAR: WE ARE 47 IN THE
COUNTRY AND PER CAPITAL INCOME. THAT MEANS WE ARE THE POOREST. 70 KENT — ONLY 70 GO UP. THERE ARE MANY WERE CURRENT
CAPITAL INCOME IS GOING DOWN. OUR PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING. THIS PROSPERITY THAT THE
GOVERNOR IS TALKING ABOUT IS NOT
REACHING US. I WILL BE THE GOVERNOR THAT DOES
NOT RELY ON ANY NUMBER OF JOBS
THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL CREATED. JUST ASK PIKE COUNTY, WHO WAS
COUNTING ON A COMPANY. THEY SAID THERE WERE THE ONE
HUNDRED MILLIONS PLUS AN
INVESTMENT. DID NOT HAPPEN IN WAS NOT EVER
GOING TO HAPPEN. IT WAS FALSE HOPE. IT’S TIME WE MAKE THE
INVESTMENTS IN AREAS WHERE WE
CREATE SIX-FIGURE JOBS ACROSS
KENTUCKY. WERE WE DECIDE THE AREAS WHERE
WE CAN BE A LEADER. ADVANCED MANUFACTURING,
ROBOTICS, THE ENGINEERING
PORTION OF THAT ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE AND HEALTH CARE. I AM TIRED OF BEING LAST. BY FOCUSING AND HAVING A VISION,
INSTEAD OF MORE OF THE SAME, WE
CAN DO SO MUCH MORE AND WE CAN
DO IT TOGETHER. GOV. BEVIN: IT HAS BEEN SAID
THAT PEOPLE WILL PERISH, AND WE
DID FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE
CENTURY. IT’S EASY TO SAY PEOPLE ARE
STRUGGLING IN DIFFERENT PLACES
AND YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND AN
EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT MIGHT BE
TRUE. BUT IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE
FIND SOMEBODY THAT PEOPLE WE
WOULD LOOK TO FIND JOBS. AND EVERYBODY WHO LOOKS AT THIS
FROM THE OUTSIDE, BLOOMBERG
AMONG OTHERS, LOOKS AT KENTUCKY
AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IN TERMS
OF CAPITAL BEING INVESTED, JOBS
CREATED, AND THERE ARE A FEW OF ANY STATES AND THEN PER CAPITA
THAT ARE DOING MORE THAN WE HAVE
FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. VICKI: EDUCATION IS OUR NEXT
TOPIC. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF PER-PUPIL
FUNDING IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH. ON THE OTHER, THAT FUNDING HAS
DECREASED WHEN ADJUSTED FOR
INFLATION. HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS ATTIC —
ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC
EDUCATION? .
GOV. BEVIN: I AM A GRADUATE OF
KENTUCKY’S PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND I
BELIEVE IN OUR TEACHER SO MUCH I
SELECTED RUN AS MY RUNNING MATE. SHE WILL BE THE FIRST ACTIVE
EDUCATOR TO SERVE AS LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR AND I THINK IT IS ABOUT
TIME. WE HAVE AN EDUCATION LAND ON
ANDY BESHEAR.COM THAT TALKS
ABOUT HOW WE WILL SHRINK CLASS
SIZE. WE’VE WILL PROVIDE $2000 RAISE
THAT OUR TEACHERS HAVE EARNED SO
WE CAN END THE TEACHER SHORTAGE
BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE A
YEAR-ROUND SUBSTITUTE FOR
CLASSES AS IMPORTANT AS OUT OF BREATH AND OTHER SCIENCE
CLASSES. WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BUDGET
FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION FIRST. BEFORE WE REACH ANYTHING ELSE WE
WILL MAKE SURE WE ARE TAKING
CARE OF THOSE STUDENTS IN THE
CLASSROOM. IT IS TIME THAT WE LOOK AT
RAISING THAT FORMULA. WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT
EACH STUDENT IS GETTING THE
FUNDING THEY NEED AND DON’T
BELIEVE THAT THIS GOVERNOR
SOMEHOW FULLY FUNDED PUBLIC
EDUCATION. JUST ASK MY RUNNING MATE. UNDER HIS BUDGET SHE HAD TO LAY
OFF 10 OF ADULTS IN HER
BUILDING. 10. GOV. BEVIN: WHEN BUDGETS ARE CUT
ANYWHERE IN AMERICA, PRIVATE
SECTOR, PUBLIC SECTOR, PEOPLE
SOMETIMES LOSE THEIR JOBS, BUT
THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WORKING
TODAY THAN EVER IN THE HISTORY OF KENTUCKY. SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC EDUCATION. MY GRANDMOTHER RETIRED AS A
PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER. MY FATHER WAS A PUBLIC SCHOOL
TEACHER. I BROTHER AND SISTER HAVE BOTH
BEEN PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS. SHE IS STILL A FOURTH GRADE
SCHOOL TEACHER HEARING KENTUCKY. I UNDERSTAND THIS FROM
FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE. LAST YEAR WHEN THOUSANDS OF
STUDENTS WERE LEFT HOME AS
PEOPLE CAME TO LET THEIR VOICES
BE HEARD IN NEIGHBORHOODS,
COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS WERE
DISRUPTED, FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES, SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC
SCHOOL OR MINE. YOU SAY YOU ARE FOR PUBLIC
SCHOOL, BUT YOU HAVE NEVER
TRUSTED THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN
OUR STATE WITH THE EDUCATION OF
YOUR OWN CHILDREN. I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES AT
THE END OF THE DAY. WE DO OH MONEY TO EVERYTHING
THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY TO
PROVIDE IT FOR. EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND ON
EVERYTHING COMES AT THE EXPENSE
OF THE TAXPAYERS IN OUR STATE. A.G. BESHEAR: WHAT SPEAKS
VOLUMES AS A GOVERNOR THAT WOULD
GO AFTER SOMEBODY’S KIDS. I WILL MAKE YOU A FEW PROMISES. I WILL NEVER BULLY OTHER
KENTUCKY TEAMS FROM THE
GOVERNOR’S OFFICE. I WILL NEVER TRY TO TEAR PEOPLE
OFF OF THEIR HEALTH CARE OR
BREAK A PROMISE THAT I HAVE MADE
TO FOLKS THAT HAVE A SOLID
RETIREMENT. THOSE ARE KENTUCKY VALUES AND
THOSE ARE THE VALUES I WAS
RAISED WITH. NO MATTER WHAT, MY OPPONENT SAYS
ABOUT ME OR TO ME TONIGHT, I
WILL NEVER BRING UP HIS KIDS IN
THIS DEBATE OR ANY OTHER. GOV. BEVIN: LET ME SAY SOMETHING
QUICKLY. I AM NOT CHALLENGING HIS
CHILDREN. THIS WAS A DECISION THAT YOU AND
YOUR WIFE MADE. THIS IS A CHALLENGE TO YOU AND
THE DECISION YOU MADE. THEY DID NOT DECIDE WHERE THEY
WOULD GO TO SCHOOL, YOU CHOSE TO
REJECT PUBLIC SCHOOLS. VICKI: LET’S MOVE ON. A.G. BESHEAR MY KIDS GOT AN
OPPORTUNITY THAT EVERY CHILD
SHOULD GET, THEY GOT TO GO TO
PRESCHOOL. THAT LETS THEM BE KINDERGARTEN
READY AND EVERY CHILD DESERVES A
OPPORTUNITY. BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT FUNDED
UNIVERSAL PRE-K THEY HAD TO GO
TO A PRIVATE PRESCHOOL AND WE
FELL IN LOVE AT THAT SCHOOL. BUT EVERY YEAR I PAY MY PROPERTY
TAXES TO SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC
SCHOOLS. THIS GOVERNOR HAS NOT ONLY TRY
TO GET OUT OF THEM ON THE
MANSION HE BOUGHT AT HALF-PRICE,
HE HAS TRIED TO APPEAL THE
AMOUNT TO A BOARD THAT HE
APPOINTED AND WANTS TO SHORTCHANGE US THAT MUCH. MY SON THIS SATURDAY IS TAKING
THE EXAM TO HEAD TO A PUBLIC
MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE ARE EXCITED AND PROUD. VICKI: QUESTION NUMBER EIGHT
CONTINUES WITH EDUCATION. YOU SUPPORT PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND
CHARTER SCHOOL VOUCHERS? GOV. BEVIN: YES. I WILL TELL YOU JUST FOR THE
SAME REASON THE GENTLEMAN TO MY
RIGHT MADE. EVERY CHILD DESERVES A CHANCE. EVERY CHILD. ASKED THE KIDS IN THE INNER CITY
HERE IN LOUISVILLE AND OTHER
PLACES. THEY DESERVE A SHOT WITH THE
VERY SAME OPPORTUNITIES YOU HAVE
GIVEN TO YOUR CHILDREN AND I
HAVE PROVIDED TO MINE AND SO
MANY WATCHING. EVERYBODY DOES, WHETHER THEY
COULD AFFORD TO OR NOT. WHY SHOULD WE NOT HAVE TO WISH
AND TAX CREDIT? WHY SHOULD WE NOT ALLOW PEOPLE
LIKE MYSELF OR YOU OR ANYONE
ELSE TO BE ABLE TO GET A CREDIT
FOR THAT MONEY FROM THE STATE IN
ORDER TO BE ABLE TO USE THOSE
DOLLARS FOR SCHOLARSHIPS TO ALLOW A CHILD TO GO TO THE
SCHOOL THAT THEIR PARENTS
CHOOSE, JUST AS YOU AND YOUR
WIFE DID. I DO THINK WE SHOULD GIVE
OURSELVES BETTER OPPORTUNITIES. TAKE A LOOK AT THE TESTING GOING
ON IN THIS DAY. LOOK AT JEFFERSON COUNTY. 70% OF BLACK KIDS IN THIS ENTIRE
SYSTEM CANNOT READ AT GRADE
LEVEL. THAT IS REPREHENSIBLE. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME AND
WE’LL BETTER CHOICES TO THOSE IN
OUR IT IS — IN OUR INNER
CITIES. A.G. BESHEAR: MY WIFE IS HERE
WITH ME TONIGHT. I LOVE YOU. THIS GOVERNOR OWES YOU AN
APOLOGY. I’M PRETTY SURE YOU WILL NOT GET
IT. I AM OPPOSED TO CHARTER SCHOOLS
AND THESE GOUGERS. THIS GOVERNOR IS THE SINGLE
GREATEST THREAT TO PUBLIC
EDUCATION WE HAVE EVER SEEN. LISTEN TO THAT ANSWER. HIS PROPOSALS, HIS POLICIES
THREATEN PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS
ALL AROUND KENTUCKY AND WILL
RESULT IN THE CLOSURE OF SCHOOLS
IF HE GETS HIS WAY. MOST OF KENTUCKY, IT DOES NOT
MATTER IF YOU’RE A DEMOCRAT,
REPUBLICAN OR INDEPENDENT. YOUR KIDS GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS
IN YOUR SYSTEM CANNOT AFFORD A
CHARTER SCHOOL. WHAT HE WOULD DO WITH FUNDING,
HOW IT WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE
PUBLIC SYSTEM WOULD BE
DETRIMENTAL TO THE CHILDREN OF
THIS COMMONWEALTH. DO OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS NEED TO DO
BETTER? YES. EVERY CHILD WE FAIL IS ALL OF
OUR FAILURES. THOUGH SYSTEMS NEED IN OUR EYE
NOT AN ADVERSARY. NOT SOMEONE WHO SUPPORTS A BOARD
OF EDUCATION THAT CARES MORE
ABOUT FOR-PROFIT CHARTER
SCHOOLS. MY VERY FIRST WEEK OF GOVERNOR,
WE WILL GET A WHOLE NEW BOARD OF
EDUCATION, ONE THAT CARES ABOUT
OUR CHILDREN. GOV. BEVIN WHEN I RE-STRUCTURED
THE BOARD OF EDUCATION IN THIS
STATE I WAS SUED BY THIS GUY,
BUT NOW HE WILL DO THE SAME
THING ON DAY ONE. I WILL SAY THIS, WHICH IS
INTERESTING, YOU TALK ABOUT THE
FOCUS ON OUR SCHOOLS. EACH YOU TALKING ABOUT
FOR-PROFIT CHARTER SCHOOLS. THERE ARE NONE OF THOSE IN
KENTUCKY. NOBODY IS A PROSE — OPPOSED TO
BRINGING THOSE. LEGISLATION PASSED ONLY ALLOWS
FOR PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOLS PAID
FOR BY PUBLIC EDUCATION DOLLARS. THEY ARE STAFFED BY PUBLIC
SCHOOL TEACHERS WHO ARE
QUALIFIED THE SAME WAYS AS
OTHER. 100% OF CHILDREN ARE CHOSEN TO
GO THERE BY THEIR PARENTS AND
PAID FOR WITH PUBLIC EDUCATION
DOLLARS. THEY ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. VICKI: WILL YOU SUPPORT
LEGISLATION TO FULLY FUND THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE SCHOOL
SAFETY BILL THAT WAS PASSED IN
THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. A.G. BESHEAR: ABSOLUTELY. EVERY CHILD DESERVES TO BE SAFE
IN THEIR SCHOOLS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FAR TOO MANY
SCHOOLS THAT HAVE TOO MANY
ENTRANCES AND EXITS. THEY ARE SADLY A SOFT TARGET. WE NEED TO PUT THE FUNDING IN TO
MAKE SURE THEY ARE NEVER PRAYED
UPON BY SOMEONE WHO WOULD COMMIT
VIOLENCE. EACH AND EVERY FAMILY ON TO FEEL
THAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE SAFE
WHILE THEY ARE IN SCHOOL. I BELIEVE EVERY SCHOOL NEEDS AND
SRO AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THAT. THEY NEED THE APPROPRIATE
TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
CULTURALLY SENSITIVE, TO MAKE
SURE THE CHILDREN IN THAT SCHOOL
WILL LEAVE THAT THEY ARE THERE
TO HELP AND TO PROTECT THEM. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS OUR
RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THE
SAFETY OF EACH AND EVERY PUBLIC
SCHOOL THAT IS OUT THERE. BUT LET ME GO BACK IF I CAN TO
THE FUNDING ISSUE. THERE IS A TEACHER IN
BRANDENBURG WHO JUST HAD TO
COMBINE HER STUDENT LOAN WITH
HER CHILD’S STUDENT LOAN. IF WE BELIEVE WE ARE FULLY
FUNDING PUBLIC EDUCATION AND
THAT THIS GOVERNOR HAS DONE
ENOUGH, JUST LOOK AT THAT. THAT IS WRONG. GOV. BEVIN: THERE IS NO
CORRELATION TO STUDENT DEBT AND
WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE FUNDING
EDUCATION. WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU GOT
A DEGREE IN. MY QUESTION IS THIS. THE QUESTION YOU HAVE ASKED IS
IS IT RELATES TO WHAT AGAIN? VICKI: SCHOOL SAFETY BILL. GOV. BEVIN: I WAS LEADING THE
CHARGE WITH OUR LEGISLATOR. I HAVE SAT WITH THESE FAMILIES. YOU TALK ABOUT APOLOGIES. YOU OH AN APOLOGY FOR THE
COURTESY OF A RESPONSE TO THE
FAMILIES AND MARSHALL COUNTY
THAT YOU STOOD ON THE STAGE IN
THE LAST DEBATE AND SAID THAT
YOU HAD MET WITH THEM. YOU HAVE NOT MET WITH THEM. THEY DON’T KNOW YOU, YOU HAVE
NOT MET WITH THEM SINCE THEY
MADE IT CLEAR THEY DON’T KNOW
YOU. THE EXTENT THAT YOU SPOKE TO
ANYBODY, THEY DON’T KNOW WHO YOU
SPOKE TO. YOU OWN THEM THE COURTESY. WE ONLY TO THEM TO KEEP THEM
SAFE NOT THE STUDENTS AND
TEACHERS ALONE, BUT THE PARENTS
WHO TAKE THEM THERE AND THE BUS
DRIVERS. I AM TO MAKING SURE WE TRULY
SECURE THE CAMPUS. THAT INCLUDES MAKING IT POSSIBLE
FOR THESE NOT TO BE KNOWN AS GUN
FREE ZONES. IF THERE IS NO WAY TO STOP A
THREAT, PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO
TARGET OUR SCHOOLS, THEATERS AND
OTHER PLACES KNOWN TO BE GUN
FREE IN THEIR ENTIRETY. A.G. BESHEAR 48 HOURS AFTER THE
TRAGIC SHOOTING AND MARSHALL
COUNTY I WENT TO MEET WITH THE
PROSECUTORS BECAUSE THEY HAVE
SMALL OFFICERS. I WAS COMMITTING EVERY RESOURCE
WE HAD. I TALKED TO ONE ASSISTANT
PROSECUTOR WHOSE WIFE TAUGHT AT
THE SCHOOL AND HE WENT THERE. HE MET WITH THE COMMONWEALTH
ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY
WALKED ME UP TO THE GRAND JURY
WANT — ROOM OR WE SPOKE WITH
FAMILIES FOR THE VERY FIRST
HEARING. WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE HEARING
WOULD BE LIKE AND I PLEDGE THAT
EVERY SINGLE RESOURCE, WHICH WE
HAVE PROVIDED. WE HAVE HELPED THE PROSECUTORS
EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. WE HAVE HAD VERY — VICTIMS
ADVOCATES AT EVERY HEARING AND
GOT A GRANT TO CREATE A SAFE
SPACE AND MARSHALL COUNTY WERE
PEOPLE CAN, WATCH THE TRIAL WITH
VICTIMS ADVOCATES THERE BECAUSE THAT TRIAL IS IN HOPKINSVILLE%
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE
SERVICES ARE THERE TO WRAP
AROUND THOSE VICTIMS. VICK LET’S SWITCH GEARS TO
HEALTH CARE. WHAT SHOULD THE STATE’S
GOVERNMENT ROLE BE IN HEALTH
CARE? WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO HELP
KENTUCKIANS GAIN ACCESS TO MORE
AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE, WHETHER
PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY PROVIDED?>>I AM STILL ASKING YOU TO
RESPOND TO THE LETTER WRITTEN BY
THE FAMILIES. A.G. BESHEAR: I WROTE A LETTER
— LETTER BACK TO THE FAMILY
JUDGE. GOV. BEVIN RESPOND TO THE
FAMILIES. I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS EVER
LIVED WITHOUT HEALTH CARE
COVERAGE. I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS EVER
LIVED WITHOUT COVERAGE BECAUSE
OF A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION. THERE IS A LOT OF TALKS YOU GIVE
ABOUT HOW I WANT TO TAKE THAT
AWAY FROM PEOPLE. AND YOUR FATHER I LOST MY
COVERAGE BECAUSE OF A
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION ON HE WAS
THE GOVERNOR. NOT ONE PERSON IN THIS STATE HAS
LOST COVERAGE DUE TO A
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION SINCE I
HAVE BEEN GOVERNOR. NOR WILL THEY AS LONG AS I AM
FOCUSED ON THIS. WE WANT NOT JUST HEALTH
COVERAGE, WE WANT BETTER HEALTH
OUTCOMES. I BELIEVE IN ABLE BODY WORKING
AGE MEN AND WOMEN, PEOPLE WHO
COULD GO TO WORK AND DON’T HAVE
DEPENDENTS SHOULD BE DOING
SOMETHING IN EXCHANGE FOR THE
FREE HEALTH CARE THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO GO TO WORK EVERY
DAY TO PROVIDE TO THEM MAY OR
MAY NOT HAVE, THAT THEY ARE
PAYING FOR. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE AT
THEIR HELM. A.G. BESHEAR: HEALTH CARE SHOULD
BE A BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE
THEIR PARENTS OR KIDS TO A
DOCTOR WHEN THEY ARE SICK. DYING FIGHTING THIS GOVERNOR WHO
IS TRYING TO TEAR AWAY COVERAGE
FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. THAT’S WHY I AM GOING AFTER BIG
PHARMA. THIS LAST WEEK I ANNOUNCED
NEARLY $40 MILLION OF
SETTLEMENTS FOR FOLKS THAT COUCH
MEDICAID OR WOMEN IN THIS
COMMONWEALTH. I CONTINUED TO GO AFTER THE
EVENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE CHARGING
300 TO $500 FOR A VIAL THAT COST
$700 TO MAKE. THIS GOVERNOR’S EXPANDED
MEDICAID WAIVER IS CRUEL. IT IS SHOWN IN ARKANSAS THAT THE
PEOPLE GETTING KICKED OFF THEIR
COVERAGE ARE PEOPLE ALREADY
WORKING. IT CREATES BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE
AND TEARS HEALTH CARE AWAY FROM
PEOPLE. WHAT DID WE LEARN THIS LAST
WEEK? HE WILL SPEND $270 MILLION OF
YOUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS JUST TO
KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF HEALTH CARE. THERE CANNOT BE A BIGGER
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO OF US
IN THIS RACE. I WILL PROTECT YOUR PRE-EXISTING
CONDITION COVERAGE. GOV. BEVIN: A LOT OF LIES THERE. NOBODY IN THIS STATE HAS LOST
ANY COVERAGE DUE TO A
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION IN THE
LAST FOUR YEARS. I AM THE ONLY ONE ON A STAGE
THAT EVER LOST HEALTH CARE DUE
TO A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION AND
IT WAS WHILE YOUR FATHER WAS THE
GOVERNOR. THE KENTUCKY HOSPITAL
ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THIS, NOT
BECAUSE THIS MEDICAID WAIVER WE
ARE LOOKING FOR, NOT BECAUSE IT
DAMAGES THEM ARE HERDS THEIR
ABILITY TO PROVIDE, OR BECAUSE IT GIVES THEM BETTER ABILITY TO
REACH PEOPLE. IT GIVES BETTER ABILITY TO GET
ABLE-BODIED PEOPLE IN THE
WORKFORCE WERE MEDICAID SHOULD
NOT BE A DEAD-END LIFE. AS FAR AS THE 271 MILLION
DOLLARS IS CONCERNED, THAT IS
THE CEILING UP TO WHICH WE WOULD
BE AUTHORIZED TO GO. EVEN IF WE WENT THERE, IT SAVES
$500 MILLION THE YEAR, SO YOU
GET TWICE THE RETURN. IT WILL COST $100 MILLION A YEAR
TO SAVE 500 AND MORE PEOPLE WILL
BE GETTING HEALTH COVERAGE,
BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES AND MORE
PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THE COMMERCIAL
MARKET. VICKI: LET’S MOVE TO NUMBER 11. THE U.S. SUPREME COURT RECENTLY
HEARD ARGUMENTS FOR WORK
REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME MEDICAID
RECIPIENTS. WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THESE
REQUIREMENTS AND WHY? A.G. BESHEAR: I BELIEVE HEALTH
CARE IS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT. I WOULD RESCIND THIS MEDICAID
WAIVER. THAT IS AN INDEPENDENT REPORT. IT WILL COST US $270 MILLION TO
KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF THEIR
COVERAGE. THE REASON THAT NO ONE HAS LOST
COVERAGE FOR PRE-EXISTING
CONDITION UNDER THIS GOVERNOR IS
THE FEDERAL HEALTH CARE REFORM
HE IS TRYING AND. IT WAS IN BOWLING GREEN THAT HE
SAID WE SHOULD GO BACK TO HOW WE
TREATED PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS
BEFORE THAT HEALTH CARE REFORM. THE YOU KNOW IT HAPPENED? PEOPLE LOST THEIR COVERAGE AND
RUN OUT OF MONEY, SOMETIMES THEY
EVEN RAN OUT OF LIFE. I WENT TO CHURCH WITH A WOMAN
FOR 10 YEARS. SHE HAD NUMEROUS PRE-EXISTING
CONDITIONS. VERY SERIOUS. HER LAST NIGHT ON EARTH WAS
CHRISTMAS EVE THIS LAST YEAR AND
SHE CAME TO CHURCH AND STOPPED
ME AS WE LEFT THE SERVICE. SHE SAID SHE WANTED TO THANK ME
FOR FIGHTING FOR HEALTH CARE
REFORM BECAUSE IT ALLOWED HER
SIX EXTRA YEARS WITH HER FAMILY
THAT SHE WOULD NOT HAVE
OTHERWISE HAD. SHE PASSED AWAY THAT NEXT DAY,
BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR
HER AND FAMILIES JUST LIKE HER
ALL OVER THIS COMMONWEALTH. GOV. BEVIN: FAMILIES LIKE HER
AND THOSE YOU DESCRIBED WAS MY
FAMILY GROWING UP. THAT WAS MY FAMILY ATE YEARS AGO
WHEN WE LOST COVERAGE. I AM THAT FAMILY. I FIGHT FOR MY FAMILY AS WELL. THESE ARE THINGS I CARE ABOUT. THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THIS
HEALTH CARE WAIVER. WE TALKED ABOUT HEALTH CARE
BEING A UNIVERSAL RIGHT, WHAT IS
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT
SOMEBODY HAS TO PROVIDE IT. NONE OF US HAVE A RIGHT TO FORCE
A PERSON TO GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL
AND PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES. WE’LL HAVE A RIGHT TO FORCE
SOMEBODY AND TREAT SOMEBODY IF
THEY DON’T HAVE MONEY. IT MAY BE A UNIVERSAL DESIRE,
BUT THE CALL IT A RIGHT IS A BIT
DIFFICULT WHEN IT COSTS MONEY
AND REQUIRES A PERSON TO DO
SOMETHING TO PROVIDE THAT RIGHT. I THINK THE KEY IS TO FIGURE OUT
HOW WE CAN ENSURE THAT PEOPLE
WHO CAN DO FOR THEMSELVES DO DO
FOR THEMSELVES, AND THAT WE
DON’T JUST SEEK COVERAGE, BUT WE
GET BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES. KENTUCKY HEALTH WILL GET PEOPLE
ENGAGED IN THEIR OUTCOMES AS
PEOPLE ENGAGED TO HER CARE OF
THINGS. THEY DO IT WITH THEIR OWN
BODIES, THEIR OWN PERSONAL
DECISIONS. I WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE WHAT I DID
NOT HAVE WHEN I WAS YOUNG. A.G. BESHEAR: MATT BEVIN WAS NOT
THIS WOMAN’S FAMILY. SHE WAS NOT A MULTIMILLIONAIRE. WITHOUT PRE-EXISTING — COVERAGE
FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS SHE
WOULD NOT HAVE LIVE THOSE LAST
YEARS OF HER LIFE. EXPANDING MEDICARE IS WORKING. IT IS ULTIMATELY SAVING US MONEY
AND SAVING LIVES. IT’S GETTING PEOPLE INTO
PREVENTATIVE CARE THAT OTHERWISE
WOULD NOT GET THEIR, AND IT’S
THE MORAL THING TO DO. WE DID NOT GET THE LAST 10,000
KIDS SIGNED UP FOR COVERAGE IN
KENTUCKY UNTIL THEIR FAMILIES
WERE SIGNED UP FOR MEDICAID. WE WERE A LEADER IN HEALTH CARE
REFORM BEFORE. WE CAN BE A LEADER IN KENTUCKY
AGAIN. ONE OF THE FASTEST-GROWING PARTS
OF OUR ECONOMY, WE SHOULD BE
STIMULATING THAT. GOV. BEVIN: I BET YOU ONE OF
THESE WOMEN CHILDREN’S HAS A
CHANCE TO GROW UP TO BE A
MULTIMILLIONAIRE. VICKI: KENTUCKY RANKS FIFTH FOR
PREVENTABLE DEATHS, LARGELY DUE
TO THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC. WHAT SPECIFIC PLANS TO YOU HAVE
TO ADDRESS THE MENTAL HEALTH AND
ECONOMIC FACTORS CREATING THIS
EPIDEMIC? GOV. BEVIN: THERE ARE SEVERAL
THINGS WE HAVE DONE IN OTHERS WE
WILL DO SINCE I WAS ELECTED
GOVERNOR THERE ARE SEVERAL
THINGS AND I WANT TO MAKE
MENTION OF THEM. HEALTH KY NOW — HELP NOW KY —
LET ME TRY THAT AGAIN. FIND HELP NOW KY.ORG. GO TO THAT WEBSITE. 8338 KY HELP. WE HAVE HOPE AND HELP KY.COM,
AND WE HAVE AN ANGEL INITIATIVE
NOW, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR
STATE POLICE POST WHERE YOU CAN
GO INTO ANY ONE OF THEM WITH
DRUGS ON YOU, YOU COULD BE ADDICTED, YOU CAN EVEN HAVE THEM
IN YOUR SYSTEM AND ON YOU AND
WOULD NOT BE CRIMINALLY CHARGED
AND WE WOULD HELP YOU FIND HELP. THAT 800 NUMBER IS STAFFED BY A
LIVE PERSON THAT WILL HELP YOU
IN KENTUCKY. LAST YEAR WE SAW THE NATIONAL
AVERAGE DROPPED 5%. IN KENTUCKY WE LEAD THE NATION
WITH A 15% DECLINE IN OPIOID
DEBTS. THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE OF
THE DOLLARS WE PUT IN. WE HAVE PUT IN OVER $40 MILLION
AND WE RECENTLY REQUIRED ONE A
GRANT FOR $90 MILLION TO HELP US
ADDRESS THIS IN OUR STATE. A.G. BESHEAR: THE OPIOID
EPIDEMIC IS A CHALLENGE OF OUR
TIMES. WE HAVE 100 BABIES BORN EVERY
MONTH GOING THROUGH WITHDRAWAL. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO RESPOND
FASTER AND WE HAVE TO RESPOND
BETTER. I’M RAISING MY KIDS IN THE MOST
DANGEROUS TIME FOR DRUGS THAT WE
HAVE EVER SEEN. THE LEGACY I WANT TO LEAVE FOR
THEM IS WHAT WE GET PAST THIS
CHALLENG THAT THREATENS OUR
FAMILIES. I WANT THE KENTUCKY OPIOID
DISPOSAL PROGRAM AIMED AT
CLEARING OUT EVERY MEDICINE
PROGRAM — CAP. WE MUST CLEAN OUT EVERY SINGLE
ONE OF THOSE CABINETS. I HAVE BEEN THE MOST AGGRESSIVE
AG IN THE COUNTRY I SUING OPIOID
MANUFACTURERS AND DISTRIBUTORS. THE NUMBERS DON’T LIE. I HAVE SUED MORE OF THEM THAN
ANYONE ELSE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND
WE HAVE ONE EVERY MOTION AND
ARGUMENT. THIS GOVERNOR HAS STOOD IN MY
WAY EVERY STEP. A COMPANY CALLED JOHNSON AND
JOHNSON WERE OKLAHOMA GOT A $705
MILLION VERDICT AND HE SAID HE
DID NOT AGREE WITH THAT OR
ANYTHING I DID. HE SAID BIG PHARMA GETS A BAD
RAP TO THE AARP AND CALLS THESE
LAWSUITS SHAKE DOWNS WHEN HE
RAN. GOV. BEVIN I DO NOT AGREE WITH
YOU HIRING YOUR BUDDIES AT
MORGAN AND MORGAN IN BRINGING
THAT SUIT AND TAKING A HUGE CUT. HOW MANY DOLLARS HAVE YOU
BROUGHT IN FOR ALL THESE
LAWSUITS? YOU HAVE SET A LAWSUIT FOR SUING
YOUR OWN GOVERNOR AMONG ATTORNEY
GENERALS. YOU ARE NOW TWO VERSUS SIX. I WOULD SAY THE ONLY TIME YOU
HAVE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN A
SETTLEMENT WAS WHEN YOU AND YOUR
LAW FIRM REPRESENTED PURDUE
PHARMA AND PROFITED FROM WHAT
YOU ARE REPRESENTING. YOU AND YOUR LAW FIRM
REPRESENTED PURDUE PHARMA
AGAINST THE COMMONWEALTH OF
KENTUCKY. THAT IS THE ONLY VIEW YOU HAVE
EVER HAD IN COURT ON THIS. A.G. BESHEAR: THIS LAST WEEK WE
ANNOUNCED 40 MILLION DOLLARS IN
FARM SETTLEMENTS. THAT IS NOT BAD FOR A WEEKS
WORK. TO CLEAR THE RECORD, WAS NOT
INVOLVED IN THAT PURDUE PHARMA
SETTLEMENT. IT WAS NOT EVEN OUT MY LAW FIRM
UP A TIME. WAS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY IN
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL’S OFFICE. THIS IS MORE OF THE SAME FROM A
GOVERNOR WHO SAID THAT SOMEONE
COMMITS SUICIDE ON A CASINO FOR
EVERY NIGHT, AND THAT OUR
TEACHERS WHO CAME TO THE CAPITAL
TO SUPPORT PUBLIC EDUCATION SOMEHOW CAUSED THE SEXUAL
ASSAULT OF CHILDREN. THIS IS NOT TRUE AND NONE OF
THAT IS EITHER. GOV. BEVIN I HAVE NEVER SAID
ANYTHING LIKE THAT ABOUT THE
CASINO IN MY LIFE. I DO DENY SAYING IT. NO IT IS NOT ON TAPE. YOU ARE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. THE TRUTH MATTERS. IF IT’S ON TAPE I WANT YOU TO
PRODUCE THE TAPE AND SHOW PEOPLE
WERE I SAID IT HAPPENED ON THE
FLOOR. A.G. BESHEAR: YOU DID NOT SAY
SOMEONE COMMITS SUICIDE ON THE
FLOOR OF A CASINO? GOV. BEVIN: NO I DID NOT. YOU’RE STATING PUBLICLY THAT I
DID SO I ASK YOU TO GIVE THE
TAPE. YOU ARE A PARTNER AT THE FIRM
THAT DEFENDANT PRODUCED PHARMA. YOU AND YOUR FATHER HAVE BEEN
PARTNERS AT THE SAME FIRM THAT
HAS DEFENDED PURDUE PHARMA, THE
MAKERS OF OXYCONTIN AGAINST
KENTUCKY. THAT IS A FACT, YOU PROFITED
FROM IT AND HE NEVER PUBLICLY
DENIED THAT YOU PROFITED FROM
IT. WE ARE ABOUT TO FIND OUT AS
THESE PUBLIC RECORDS BECOME
KNOWN HOW MUCH YOU PROFITED. A.G. BESHEAR: HAVE YOU EVER
INSULTED A TEACHER? GOV. BEVIN: CLEARLY THERE ARE
PEOPLE INSULTED BY A MANY NUMBER
OF THINGS. THE QUESTION OF SOMEONE BEING
INSULTED IS WHETHER YOU HAVE
SAID SOMETHING TO INSULT THEM. PEOPLE CAN BE INSULTED BY
THINGS. VICKI: LET’S MOVE ONTO THE NEXT
QUESTION OR I WILL BE INSULTED. KENTUCKY HAS ONE OF THE WORST
RATES OF CHILD NEGLECT IN THE
COUNTRY. WHAT WILL YOU DO TO IMPROVE THE
CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM. ?
A.G. BESHEAR: IRAN FOR ATTORNEY
GENERAL TO BETTER PROTECT ALL OF
OUR CHILDREN. OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL’S OFFICE IS
NEARLY TRIPLED THE NUMBER OF
CHILD PREDATORS WE HAVE REMOVED
FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE HAD A RECORD NUMBER OF
ARREST FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKERS
LAST YEAR. BUT A RECORD NUMBER OF SAVES THE
VICTIMS AS WELL. WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TEACHING
EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT GROUP,
TRAUMA CENTER VICTIM CENTER
APPROACHES. WE ARE ADDRESSING A CULTURE OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT EXISTING
KENTUCKY, TO MAKE SURE NO VICTIM
IS EVER ASKED WHAT WERE YOU
WEARING AND WHY YOU WERE OUT SO
LATE AT NIGHT. THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT WE
NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO HIRE MORE SOCIAL
WORKERS AND WE NEED TO FINALLY
COMPENSATE THEM FOR THE AMAZING
WORK THEY DO. THAT IS HARD IN AN ENVIRONMENT
WHERE THE GOVERNOR TRIES TO CUT
THEIR PENSIONS AND SAY THEIR
UNSKILLED PROFESSIONS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DECREASE
THEIR CASELOADS AND MAKE SURE
EVERY SINGLE CABINET IS WORKING
TOGETHER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF
OUR CHILDREN, AS GOVERNOR, I
WILL BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED EVERY DAY IN ADJUSTING THIS CRISIS. GOV. BEVIN: NOBODY’S PENSION HAS
BEEN CUT. THOSE VERY SAME PEOPLE, I AM THE
ONLY ONE WHO HAS EVER FUNDED
THEIR PENSION. I AM ALSO THE FIRST PERSON TO
GIVE THEM ANY KIND OF PAY RAISE
AS GOVERNOR IN MORE THAN A
DECADE. YOUR FATHER NEVER DID IN HIS
EIGHT YEARS. NOT ONLY FOR THE FRONTLINE
WORKERS, BUT FOR SUPERVISORS AS
WELL. THIS IS SOMETHING I AM
PASSIONATE ABOUT. CHILD WELFARE STARTS WITH
DEFENDING HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE
DID — AND THE DIGNITY OF HUMAN
LIFE. I AM UNAPOLOGETICALLY PRO-LIFE. THAT IS THE FIRST THING WE CAN
DO FOR CHILD WELFARE, PROTECT
EVERY LIFE, INCLUDING THE UNBORN
AND THE INNOCENT. MY WIFE AND I ADOPTED FOUR OF
OUR NINE CHILDREN. IT’S SOMETHING WE LIVE EVERY DAY
AND SOMETHING WE ARE GRATEFUL —
GRATEFUL TO CONTRIBUTE TO. WE HAVE NEVER SEEN ADOPTION AND
FOSTER CARE ELEVATED TO SUCH A
HIGH LEVEL. WE HAVE MORE THEN 1000 MORE
FOSTER FAMILIES TODAY THAN WE
DID JUST FOUR YEARS AGO. THESE ARE THINGS THAT BECAUSE OF
THE PASSION OF MINE AND MY WIFE
THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON LIKE
NEVER BEFORE. I WILL SAY ONE FINAL THING. THE JACK PROGRAM, WHICH TAKES
KIDS STEPPING THROUGH THE FACTS
— CRACKS THAT HAD A PROGRAMS
NOW HAS 66 PROGRAMS WITH 100%
GRADUATION RATE. JOBS FOR AMERICA’S GRADUATES,
CHECK IT OUT BECAUSE IT SHOULD
BE IN EVERY AMERICAN PUBLIC
SCHOOLING KENTUCKY. A.G. BESHEAR: I SUPPORT ROE V. WADE, ESPECIALLY RESTRICTIONS
FOR LATE-TERM PROCEDURES. THE DISCOVERER IS AN EXTREMIST. HE BELIEVES IN A COMPLETE AND
TOTAL BAN, EVEN FOR VICTIMS OF
RAPE AND INCENSE. WHEN YOU WORK WITH VICTIMS OF
THAT TRAUMA AND THEY DESERVE
OPTIONS. UNDER THIS GOVERNOR, A
13-YEAR-OLD RAPED BY A MEMBER OF
HER OWN FAMILY AND IMPREGNATED
WOULD HAVE NO OPTIONS. I THINK THAT IS WRONG. GOV. BEVIN: THIS IS A CRITICAL
ISSUE. YOU SAY THESE THINGS, BUT YOU
ARE SUPPORTED BY TAKING THE
MONEY THAT INSISTS ON ABORTION
UP UNTIL THE MOMENT OF DELIVERY. YOU STAND WITH GOVERNORS SAY YOU
SHOULD DECIDE AFTER A CHILD IS
BORN WHETHER OR NOT THE CHILD
SHOULD LIVE. YOU SUPPORTED BY PLANNED
PARENTHOOD THAT IS PROFITED BY
THIS. YOU TAKE MONEY FROM THE ABORTION
DOCTORS IN THE STATE. IT IS CRITICAL THAT YOU BE
HONEST THAT YOU ARE PRO-ABORTION
AND TRY NOT TO PUT THE SAFE
LITTLE COMMENTS AND FIND
EXAMPLES WORTHIER — WHERE THERE
ARE EXAMPLES. A.G. BESHEAR: I WILL TELL YOU OR
I AM. I SUPPORT REASONABLE
RESTRICTIONS, ESPECIALLY ON
LATE-TERM RESTRICTIONS. THAT 13-YEAR-OLD, RAPED BY A
MEMBER OF HER FAMILY, THIS
GOVERNOR HAS TOLD YOU WILL
ELIMINATE EVERY OPTION FOR THAT
CHILD. GOV. BEVIN: HOW MANY OF THEM
WERE HEARING KENTUCKY LAST YEAR. VICKI: LET’S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT
QUESTION. THE GAS TAX REVENUE HAS MANY
LAWMAKERS DISCUSSING RAISING THE
GAS TAX OR CREATING PER MILEAGE
FEE PER DRIVERS. WHICH OF THESE OR EITHER DO YOU
SUPPORT AND WHY? GOV. BEVIN: WE NEED
COMPREHENSIVE TAX OR FOREIGN IN
THE STATE. WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE DEATH
TAX AND INVENTORY TAX AND WE
NEED TO BE ABL TO ACCOMMODATE
THESE THINGS BY MAKING SURE WE
DON’T LEAVE THE THINGS THAT ARE
FUNDED BY THEM. LIBRARIES, FIRE DEPARTMENTS,
ETC. OUT TO LUNCH. WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR SALES TAX
AND INCOME TAX AND LOOK AT OUR
ROAD TAX. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. EVERY SINGLE TIME THE GAS TAX
GOES UP’S IS $31 MILLION. WE HAVE TWO SOURCES OF FUN. THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY TRUST FUND
IS $750 MILLION AND THE GAS TAX
HAVE THE FUEL PUMP. THAT GENERATES ANOTHER $700
MILLION. IF WE WANT NEW BRIDGES AND NEW
ROADS AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO
TAKE CARE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE
NOW, IT’S CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE
TO PAY FOR IT. IT’S LIKE EVERYTHING. I WILL NOT KICK CANS DOWN THE
ROAD. WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE AN ADULT
CONVERSATION AMONG OURSELVES AS
LEGISLATORS, AS GOVERNORS, AS
PEOPLE OF OFFICE, WE WILL HAVE
TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT WE
WANT AND WHAT WE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR. A.G. BESHEAR: IT’S TELLING THAT
THE GOVERNOR ANSWER THAT
QUESTION WITH THINK YOU WILL
ONLY APPEAL TAXES THAT APPLY TO
THE MOST WEALTHY. HIM AND HIS BUDDIES. HE WILL INCREASE THE SALES TAX
ON ALL OF THE REST OF US. I BELIEVE COMPREHENSIVE TAX
REFORM HAS TO LIFT US UP TO MAKE
SURE FAMILIES THAT ARE ONE
PAYCHECK AWAY FROM POVERTY CAN
ACTUALLY GET TO PROSPERITY. THAT WE DON’T RAISE THE SALES
TAX ON PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY
GETTING BY, AT LEAST FOR AREAS
OF REVENUE FIRST. OUR ROAD BUDGET WILL TAKE
SHORT-TERM FIXES AND LONG-TERM
SOLUTIONS, BUT ALSO HAS TO HAVE
A VISION. A VISION WHERE WE WILL BUILD THE
I-69 BRIDGE AND OPEN WESTERN IN
MY FIRST TERM. IT HAS TO BE A COMMITMENT TO
ROADS THAT ARE THE SEVEN MOST
DANGEROUS IN THIS COUNTRY. WE LOSE HALF THE PEOPLE WE LOSE
TO THE OPIOID — OPIOID EPIDEMIC
ON THE ROADS. WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS
THAT WILL OPEN UP PROJECTS OF
THE STATE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE AND THAT
WE PUT WORKING-CLASS FAMILIES
FIRST, NOT OUR WEALTHY BUDDIES. GOV. BEVIN: ASKED THE PEOPLE IN
OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT
HOW THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF. WHEN I WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR FOUR
YEARS AGO WE HAD $6 BILLION JUST
ON OUR BRIDGES. WE HAD A PROGRAM CALLED BRIDGING
KENTUCKY. WE ARE FIXING 1000 RIGHT NOW. MORE THAN 100 HAVE BEEN
COMPLETED. THESE WERE CANS KICKED DOWN THE
ROAD BY MULTIPLE PREVIOUS
GOVERNORS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, WE ARE
SPENDING MORE THAN WE EVER HAVE
ON DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. THE I-69 BRIDGE YOU KEEP
REFERENCING, YOUR FATHER IGNORE
THAT FOR ALL THE EIGHT YEARS. I AM THE GUY THAT MADE SURE WE
FORWARDED THE ENVIRONMENTAL
STUDY, THE ENGINEERING STUDY,
AND IT WILL GET DONE IN MY NEXT
TERM AS GOVERNOR AND IN THE NEXT
FOUR YEARS NO MATTER WHO IS GOVERNOR BECAUSE OF THE WORK
BEING DONE IN THE LAST FOUR
YEARS. VICKI: LOOKING BACK OVER THE
LAST FOUR YEARS IN YOUR
POSITION, WHAT IS ONE POLICY OR
ACTION YOU WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY,
AND HOW WOULD YOU CHANGE IT? A.G. BESHEAR: I TALKED TO THE
PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY ABOUT EXACTLY
WHAT I WOULD DO. I WOULD FIGHT TO BETTER PROTECT
OUR CHILDREN, SENIORS, I WOULD
ADDRESS THE RAPE KIT BACKLOG AND
WORK TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE
DRUG EPIDEMIC. FOUR YEARS LATER I HAVE KEPT MY
PROMISES. TRIPLED THE NUMBER OF CHILD
PREDATORS WE HAVE REMOVED FROM
THE COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE RETURNED TO $.5 MILLION
TO OUR SENIORS WHO HAVE HAD
MONEY SCAMMED FROM THEM. WE HAVE TESTED EVERY KID IN THAT
BACKLOG. WE HAVE 10 INDICTMENTS COMING
OUT OF THAT BACKLOG. WE SUED MORE OPIOID
MANUFACTURERS AND ED THE OTHER
ATTORNEY GENERAL AND WE HAVE ONE
EVERY MOTION ON EVERY CASE. BUT I DID NOT GET AS FAR AS I
WANTED TO ON ADDRESSING DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. OUR STATISTICS ARE NEARLY ONE IN
TWO. NEARLY ONE INTO KENTUCKY WOMEN
ARE SUBJECTED TO SOME FORM OF
DOMESTIC FINANCE IN THEIR
LIFETIME. AS A SON, AS A HAS-BEEN AND AS A
DAD, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
UNACCEPTABLE. I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK AS
GOVERNOR TO MAKE SURE NO ONE IS
EVER UNSAFE IN THEIR OWN HOME
AND THAT WE DO BETTER. GOV. BEVIN: THAT RAPE TESTS —
TEST KIT BACKLOG OCCURRED UNDER
YOUR FATHER. THAT’S THE SAD REALITY. IT WAS A LEMONADE IT BECAUSE OF
BUDGETING I PUT INTO OUR STATE
BUDGET TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENED. IT DID NOT COME OUT OF YOUR
OFFICE AT ALL. YOU SHOULD NOT BE CLAIMING
CREDIT FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU
REALLY WEREN’T INVOLVED IN. THOSE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS DON’T
EVEN WORK FOR YOU. THEY WORK IN THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH. IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND
THE TRUTH MATTERS. THE WAYS IN WHICH WE CARE FOR
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE
BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE
YOUR OF EVERYBODY. THAT INCLUDES THE VULNERABLE. WE ASK ABOUT THINGS WE COULD DO
DIFFERENT, I WISH WE FIXED THE
PENSION PROBLEM. I WISH WE HAD MODERNIZED OUR TAX
CODE. WE HAVE NOT YET MODERNIZED IT TO
MAKE US COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER
STATES. WE HAVE SET RECORD LEVELS OF
THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE
MOVING FORWARD ON. THERE ARE MANY THINGS I REGRET
WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN DONE. THERE ARE STILL 2500 CHILDREN
THAT ARE IN THE FOSTER CARE
SYSTEM WAITING FOR A FOREVER
FAMILY. WE HAVE 6500 HOUSES OF WORSHIP
IN THE STATE. SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND ONE HOME
FOR EVERY TWO AND A HALF
CHURCHES IN THIS COUNTRY. A.G. BESHEAR: I BELIEVE IT IS A
GOVERNOR’S DUTY TO SERVE THE
LOSS, LONELY AND LEFT BEHIND. BUT YOU DON’T DO THAT BY RIPPING
95,000 PEOPLE OFF THEIR HEALTH
CARE COVERAGE. WHAT APPARENTLY IS HIS HEALTH
CARE COVERAGE, THE CHILD SUFFERS
AS WELL. YOU DON’T DO THAT BY GOING AFTER
TEACHERS IN FAILING TO FUND
SCHOOLS IN A WAY TO GIVE EVERY
CHILD TRUE OPPORTUNITY. YOU DON’T DO THAT BY THREATENING
THE PENSIONS OF SO MANY
HARD-WORKING KENTUCKIANS THAT
KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. WE NEED A GOVERNOR THAT WILL BE
AN EXAMPLE. AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE WANT OUR
CHILDREN TO BEHAVE IN OUR
GOVERNOR SHOULD BEHAVE BETTER. VICKI: THAT CONCLUDES OUR TIMES
FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WE HAVE TIME FOR EACH CANDIDATE
TO GIVE 90 SECONDS FOR A CLOSING
STATEMENT. MR. BESHEAR WILL GO FIRST. A.G. BESHEAR: THIS GOVERNOR AND
I DISAGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS,
BUT HE SAID SOMETHING I DO AGREE
ON. KENTUCKIANS WILL HAVE TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN ONE OF US. ONE WAY THEY SHOULD THINK ABOUT
IS WHO THEY WOULD WANT TO LEAD
THEIR COMPANY OR LOOK AFTER
THEIR FAMILY. WOULD IT BE A GOVERNOR WHO HAS
BULLIED HIS EMPLOYEES GOING
AFTER TEACHERS? WOULD IT BE A GOVERNOR THAT
GIVES HIS TEACHERS ABSORBED IN
SALARIES. WOULD IT BE SOMEBODY WHO USES
THE COMPANY’S PROPERTY AS HIS
PLAYTHINGS FLYING A STATE
PLAYING HERE AND USNG THE
GOVERNOR’S MANSION THERE? WHAT IT BE SOMEONE WHO COULD NOT
GET ALONG WITH THEIR CFO, AS
THIS GOVERNOR HAS BULLIED HIS
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. WOULD IT BE SOMEONE WHO REFUSES
TO PAY AS THIS GOVERNOR REFUSES
TO RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS? WHAT A BE SOMEBODY WHO BENEFITS
FROM HIS POSITION OF GETTING HIS
MANSION AT HALF-PRICE? NO. IT WOULD BE SOMEONE I GIVES YOU
A BETTER TOMORROW. PLANS ON HOW WE CANNOT BE 47TH
OR 48TH IN THINGS BUT A LEADER. OUR PLAN TO BOOST JOBS ACROSS
KENTUCKY FOR THE FIRST TIME
GIVES WESTERN AND EASTERN
KENTUCKY REAL HOPE. IT SHOWS YOU AREAS WHERE WE CAN
BE A NATIONAL LEADER. BUT WHAT WE DESPERATELY NEED IS
A GOVERNOR THAT CAN BRING US
TOGETHER. ONE THAT WOULD NEVER ENGAGE IN A
TYPE OF CONDUCT WE SEE. ONE THAT UNDERSTANDS THAT ONCE
YOU ARE ELECTED YOU ARE A
GOVERNOR FOR ALL OF US. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DISAGREES
WITH YOU DOES NOT MAKE YOU THEIR
ENEMY — DOES NOT MAKE THEM YOUR
ENEMY. GOV. BEVIN: THANK YOU TO EACH OF
YOU HAVE — WHO HAVE TAKEN A
TIME TO TUNE IN WHO ARE
COMPETING AGAINST COLLGE
FOOTBALL AND U.K., WHICH IN THE
STATE IT’S IMPORTANT. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO
TUNE IN AND COME OUT IN THE
RAIN. YOU DO HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE OF US. YOU DON’T GET PART OF ME ARE
PART OF HIM. IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER. ONE OF US WILL SIT DOWN ACROSS
FROM THE CEOS OF COMPANIES IN
THE STATE AND OUTSIDE OF THE
STATE. WE WILL MAKE THE CASE FOR WHY
KENTUCKY. ONE OF US WILL BE THE
RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR MOVING THE
STATE FORWARD OR TAKING IT
BACKWARDS. I AM THE ONLY ONE ON THE STAGE
TO HAS CREATED JOBS. I AM AM THE ONLY ONE IN THE
PRIVATE SECTOR. I AM AM THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS
EVER LIVED BELOW THE POVERTY
LEVEL ON THE STAGE. I AM THE ONLY ONE ON THE STAGE
WITHOUT HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. IT DOES NOT MAKE ME A BETTER
PERSON, IT INFORMS ME WITH A
LEVEL OF EMPATHY. I AM MARRIED WITH NINE CHILDREN. FOUR OF WHOM ARE ADOPTED. EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES WE POUR
BACK INTO OUR CHILDREN BECAUSE
WE WANT A BETTER TOMORROW FOR
THEM THAT EVERYONE OF YOU WANTS
FOR YOUR CHILDREN. I LOVE KENTUCKY, I LOVE AMERICA,
I ONCE WORE THIS NATION’S
UNIFORM. I WAS WILLING TO DIE FOR THE
NATION AND I STILL WOULD. AS DAN PROBABLY WITH THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I RESPECT HUMAN LIFE AND OUR
CONSTITUTION. I RESPECT OUR RIGHT TO BEAR
ARMS. THESE ARE FUNDAMENTAL
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US. IF I AM ELECTED AGAIN I WOULD
FIGHT FOR YOU LIKE I WOULD MY
OWN FAMILY. I WOULD DEFEND THIS COMMONWEALTH
AGAINST EVERYTHING AND THE WAY I
DEFEND THIS NATION WHEN I WORE
THE UNIFORM 30 YEARS AGO. VICKI: THANK YOU FOR TAKING PART
IN THE DEBATE. WE WANT TO THINK THE LEAGUE OF
WOMEN VOTERS FOR PARTNERING WITH
WLKY AND PROVIDING US WITH THE
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. REMEMBER TO VOTE NOVEMBER 5. POLLS OPEN AT 6:00 IN THE
MORNING. THOSE AT 6:00 IN THE EVENING AND
BE SURE TO FOLLOW WLKY’S
COVERAGE AS RESULTS COME IN. YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG ON AIR AND
ONLINE AND OF COURSE ON OUR
MOBILE APP. I AM VICKI